A conversation with Cassils, a trans visual artist who has achieved international recognition for a rigorous engagement with the body as a form of social sculpture. Drawing on the histories of conceptualism, feminism, body art, and gay male aesthetics, Cassils undergoes strict physical training regimes to create a powerfully trained body for performative purposes. Cassils received their BFA from Nova Scotia College of Art and Design in Halifax, Canada and an MFA in Art and Integrated Media from California Institute of the Arts in Los Angeles.